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January 29, 2009, at 04:23 PM by OtherMichael - SynCE
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!![[#VOIP]] VOIP
[[
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showforum=13|skype for WindowsCE]]
[[http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=87948|skype forum thread]] - skype
[[http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1168296|howardForums thread w/ more]] - skype and a Fring suggestion

I installed Fring, but didn't do anything with it. Need to read the manual better? deleted it.

I don't have a cell-phone plan for my device, but I do have another cell-phone. So I don't really need to make device-to-person calls, which cost money. And I don't know enough people using VOIP to bother.

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!! Syncing
[[http://www.synce.org/moin/|SynCE]] - sync a Wing with a Linux device
 
 
November 10, 2008, at 09:58 PM by OtherMichael -
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(:toc:)
 
 
November 10, 2008, at 02:28 PM by OtherMichael - emacs keying woes....
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CTRL-key available via the OSD. Could do some basic things.... No ALT.

BUT, you should be able to use ESC to replace the ALT/Meta key... except there's no ESC key on the 4350, either....

maybe this will work? [[http://www.shubaroo.com/index.php?module=escape|escape.exe for simulating the ESC key?]]
 
 
November 10, 2008, at 09:42 AM by OtherMichael - anchors and brief notes on text-entry
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(:description when is a phone not a phone when it is without a contract:)
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I have no cell contract, just using it as a tiny computer. I've owned for less than a week (since Oct 12).

Figured out the handwriting recognition thingy
. There's a MENU next to the keyboard icon at the bottom... several options. I feel like I've got a [[StringCanPhone/Palm]], again! [[http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm51348.htm|wing text-entry methods]]
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I have no cell contract, just using it as a tiny computer ([[Wikipedia:Ultra-Mobile_PC|UMPC]]?). The Os is [[WinCE|Windows CE 6.0]], and I can't seem to decide what info should go on THIS page or [[WinCE|that.]] In time, things should shake out. I've only owned since Oct 12, 2008....


The slide-out keyboard can be awkward, but there is (usually) a MENU next to the center icon at the bottom with several input options -- on-screen keyboard, letter recogizer, block recognizer, transcription, etc. I prefer the letter recognizer, and feel like I've got a [[StringCanPhone/Palm
]], again! See also [[http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm51348.htm|wing text-entry methods.]] I recently installed Emacs ([[Programming/Wing#Emacs|see below]]) but haven't figured out how to get access to Ctrl- and Meta- (alt) keys, yet....

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!! Games
[[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_thread/thread/ebbaf6605fbfb10b?pli=1|Powder]] - uhm. Deleted it.
[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]] - download and run on the desktop PC, not on the wing. Tile mode graphics aren't so bad. I hope to switch to ASCII-graphics once I'm used to the interface and gameplay. This makes me something of a wuss, doesn't it...
[[http://stella.sourceforge.net/|Stella]] - Atari 2600 emulator. I'm finding the controls awkward. But much easier when I discovered the screen orientation rotates when I press the green-phone button
[[http://www.mameworld.net/mamece3/|MAME]] -- yes, MAME. Many games do not work for no reason, and sound I have found sluggish at best. Dig-Dug runs very slowly. The processor here is 247 MMhz (overclocked), but the original game was less than 10 Mhz, so even after emulation, isn't that fast enough? I guess not...


!!
Other software
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!![[#otherSoftware]] Other software
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!! Emacs
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!![[#Emacs]] Emacs
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!! Memory and Expansion
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!![[#Games]] Games
[[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_thread/thread/ebbaf6605fbfb10b?pli=1|Powder]] - uhm. Deleted it.
[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]] - download and run on the desktop PC, not on the wing. Tile mode graphics aren't so bad. I hope to switch to ASCII-graphics once I'm used to the interface and gameplay. This makes me something of a wuss, doesn't it...
[[http://stella.sourceforge.net/|Stella]] - Atari 2600 emulator. I'm finding the controls awkward. But much easier when I discovered the screen orientation rotates when I press the green-phone button
[[http://www.mameworld.net/mamece3/|MAME]] -- yes, MAME. Many games do not work for no reason, and sound I have found sluggish at best. Dig-Dug runs very slowly. The processor here is 247 Mhz (overclocked), but the original game was less than 10 Mhz, so even after emulation, isn't that fast enough? I guess not...


!![[#expansion]]
Memory and Expansion
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!! CygWin and the command line
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!![[#commandLine]] CygWin and the command line
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!! Ebooks
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!![[#Ebook]] Ebooks
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!! Tasks and Calendar
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!![[#Tasks]] Tasks and Calendar
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!! VOIP
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!![[#VOIP]] VOIP
 
 
November 09, 2008, at 06:25 PM by OtherMichael -
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EmacsWiki:Emacs_and_EmacsWikiMode_on_PDAs  hmmmm.....
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EmacsWiki:Emacs_and_EmacsWikiMode_on_PDAs  hmmmm.....
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I modified the batch file to match where I installed it on my Storage Card, and manually moved the [@celib.dll@] to the (slow) \Windows directory.

I actually got it installed and running
... of sorts. Need to tweak the display to fit on-screen. And I can't figure out how to access the Ctrl- or Meta- key sequences. Which sort of leaves out everything except typing in [@*scratch*@] since there are no menus....

Next step....

 
 
November 08, 2008, at 07:21 PM by OtherMichael - emacs notes for the future....
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look at [[http://www.cnet.com/topic-software/microsoft-windows-ce/pocket-pc.html|c-net downloads for WinCE]]. lots of payware. I'm cheap....
[[http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/DirCat.aspx/Dir/Software|"free" software]]


!! Emacs
[[http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/pocketpc/Sep2005/post23841938.asp|a thread]]
[[http://www.rainer-keuchel.de/wince/emacs-wince.html|WinCE Emacs]]

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!! other software
look at [[http://www.cnet.com/topic-software/microsoft-windows-ce/pocket-pc.html|c-net downloads for WinCE]]. lots of payware. I'm cheap....
[[http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/DirCat.aspx/Dir/Software|"free" software]]
 
 
November 07, 2008, at 09:00 AM by OtherMichael - changed MTC ref to local page
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But what I'd like to do is something with http://mindtrafficcontrol.appspot.com/
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But what I'd like is an interface to MindTrafficControl
 
 
November 06, 2008, at 09:07 AM by OtherMichael - moved VOIP and some small notes
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!! VOIP
[[http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showforum=13|skype for WindowsCE]]
[[http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=87948|skype forum thread]] - skype
[[http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1168296|howardForums thread w/ more]] - skype and a Fring suggestion

I installed Fring, but didn't do anything with it. Need to read the manual better? deleted it.

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[[http://www.mameworld.net/mamece3/|MAME]] ???

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[[http://www.mameworld.net/mamece3/|MAME]] -- yes, MAME. Many games do not work for no reason, and sound I have found sluggish at best. Dig-Dug runs very slowly. The processor here is 247 MMhz (overclocked), but the original game was less than 10 Mhz, so even after emulation, isn't that fast enough? I guess not...

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!! VOIP
[[http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showforum=13|skype for WindowsCE]]
[[http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=87948|skype forum thread]] - skype
[[http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1168296|howardForums thread w/ more]] - skype and a Fring suggestion

I installed Fring, but didn't do anything with it. Need to read the manual better? deleted it.

I don't have a cell-phone plan for my device, but I do have another cell-phone. So I don't really need to make device-to-person calls, which cost money. And I don't know enough people using VOIP to bother.
 
 
November 03, 2008, at 03:02 PM by OtherMichael - google apps + python
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Which would require [[http://sourceforge.net/projects/pythonce|Python on the CE]] and the [[http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/gettingstarted/|Google App Engine SDK]]

 
 
November 03, 2008, at 02:22 PM by OtherMichael - tasks
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!! Tasks and Calendar
[[http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/board/1986/activegcsync-sync-app-for-pocket-pc-and-google-calendar-available.html|Sync with google calendar]]

But what I'd like to do is something with http://mindtrafficcontrol.appspot.com/

 
 
November 01, 2008, at 11:33 AM by OtherMichael - ebooks
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!! Ebooks
The built-in Adobe Reader LE (v 2.0) read 1 out of the first 5 PDFs I tried it with (Paul Graham's "On Lisp", interestingly) and that one had lousy visuals - I had to scroll sideways to read each line. Supposedly, 2.5 has better functionality. But I've already moved on...

Downloaded [[http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/ProductDetailsReader.asp?View=Device|MobiPocketReader]] and it converts my PDFs into some sort of proprietary format, but they configure themselves to fit the screen, and I can rotate the display sideways w/o sliding out the keyboard (one of my peeves -- is there another way to do that? I can only do so in the Stella Emulator and here).

I have some vague twinge of disappointment that I'm using a proprietary format, but until Stallman yells at me, I can deal with it.
 
 
November 01, 2008, at 10:47 AM by OtherMichael -
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[[http://www.pocketpcjunkies.com/Uwe/DirCat.aspx/Dir/Software|"free" software]]
 
 
November 01, 2008, at 10:27 AM by OtherMichael -
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[[http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/pocket-pc/freeware/download-pocketconsole-v1-3.html|Pocket Console]] - freeware
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[[http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/pocket-pc/freeware/download-pocketconsole-v1-3.html|Pocket Console]] - freeware; just the console drive, still need a command-interpreter

or see this [[http://forums.thoughtsmedia.com/f322/dos-like-command-prompt-dos-scripting-pocket-pc-roundup-70894.html|roundup of info]]
 
 
October 31, 2008, at 10:34 AM by OtherMichael - powershell
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[[http://sourceforge.net/projects/pash/|PowerShell - opensource]] - look through other projects at Source Forge
 
 
October 31, 2008, at 10:31 AM by OtherMichael - pocket console
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[[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms879823.aspx|WinCE.NET includes a command processor shell]] ... ?
[[http://ce4all.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-line-console-over-serial.html|shell over serial]] but talks about launching [@cmd.bat@] from the phone -- ?? I haven't dug deep enough?

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[[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms879823.aspx|WinCE.NET includes a command processor shell]] ... ?
[[http://ce4all.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-line-console-over-serial.html|shell over serial]] but talks about launching [@cmd.bat@] from the phone -- ?? I haven't dug deep enough?

[[http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/pocket-pc/freeware/download-pocketconsole-v1-3.html|Pocket Console]] - freeware

!! other software
look at [[http://www.cnet.com/topic-software/microsoft-windows-ce/pocket-pc.html|c-net downloads for WinCE]]. lots of payware. I'm cheap....
 
 
October 30, 2008, at 12:07 PM by OtherMichael -
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[[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046|Newbies guide to Heral/Atlas]]
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[[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046|Newbies guide to Herald/Atlas]]
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[[http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms879823.aspx|WinCE.NET includes a command processor shell]] ... ?
[[http://ce4all.blogspot.com/2007/06/command-line-console-over-serial.html|shell over serial]] but talks about launching [@cmd.bat@] from the phone -- ?? I haven't dug deep enough?

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!! CygWin and the command line
There is no version of CygWin available; I would presume because it is too tiny, too unlikely to be used as a (u|li)nix machine, and this too much bother to port to this OS. The me of one-week-ownership laughs at this naive question of the me-of-one-day-ownership.

However, there do appear to be versions of SSH or the like available...

Oct 30 - I've been thinking more about this. A command-line for a semi-real-time OS does seem... odd. How to break away from the command line to do the immediate, pressing tasks? (may not really that much of an issue, if using windows management.) Or how to do some of the tasks? I think I'm imaging the primary OS interface as command-line driven. How would one make a phone call? Take a phone call?

I'm sure it's possible. Awkward perhaps.

But you know, I love the idea.

And the more I think about it, the more I would prefer to navigate the filesystem from the machine via the command-line, instead of through WinCE explorer, or via my PC. ugh.

[[http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=reviews&id=1035&p=2|Pocket-Controller Pro seems to provide shell access]] for $35, but I can't tell if that's via the PC, or not

 
 
October 27, 2008, at 10:09 PM by OtherMichael -
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[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]] - Tile mode graphics aren't so bad. I hope to switch to ASCII-graphics once I'm used to the interface and gameplay. This makes me something of a wuss, doesn't it...
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[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]] - download and run on the desktop PC, not on the wing. Tile mode graphics aren't so bad. I hope to switch to ASCII-graphics once I'm used to the interface and gameplay. This makes me something of a wuss, doesn't it...
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[[http://www.tinytwitter.com/|TinyTwitter]] - pleasant
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[[http://www.tinytwitter.com/|TinyTwitter]] - nice. Windows Mobile version
 
 
October 26, 2008, at 02:11 PM by OtherMichael -
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[[http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1170456-1.html|deleting programs from the Wing]]
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[[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327046|Newbies guide to Heral/Atlas]]
[[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369397|lots of Wing upgrading links]]
[[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360999|more upgrade links]]
[[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358615|flashing a ROM
]]
 
 
October 26, 2008, at 01:00 PM by OtherMichael -
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[[http://www.htcwiki.com/thread/1248110/Make+your+Wing+really+Fly|speed up the wing]] - steps and programs to move to SD card and free up memory (= faster)
 
 
October 26, 2008, at 12:38 PM by OtherMichael - re-org, notes, Emacs link from WinCe
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[[http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1170456-1.html|deleting programs from the Wing]]
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Figured out the handwriting recognition thingy. There's a MENU next to the keyboard icon at the bottom... several options. I feel like I've got a StringCanPhone/Palm, again! [[http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm51348.htm|wing text-entry methods]]
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Figured out the handwriting recognition thingy. There's a MENU next to the keyboard icon at the bottom... several options. I feel like I've got a [[StringCanPhone/Palm]], again! [[http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm51348.htm|wing text-entry methods]]
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[[http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1170456-1.html|deleting programs from the Wing]]

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I installed Fring, but didn't do anything with it. Need to read the manual better? deleted it.
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[[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_thread/thread/ebbaf6605fbfb10b?pli=1|Powder]] - uhm.
[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]] - waaah, it has graphics
[[http://stella.sourceforge.net/|Stella]] - Atari 2600 emulator. I'm finding the controls awkward
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[[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_thread/thread/ebbaf6605fbfb10b?pli=1|Powder]] - uhm. Deleted it.
[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]] - Tile mode graphics aren't so bad. I hope to switch to ASCII-graphics once I'm used to the interface and gameplay. This makes me something of a wuss, doesn't it...
[[http://stella.sourceforge.net/|Stella]] - Atari 2600 emulator. I'm finding the controls awkward. But much easier when I discovered the screen orientation rotates when I press the green-phone button
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[[http://www.tinytwitter.com/|TinyTwitter]]
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[[http://www.tinytwitter.com/|TinyTwitter]] - pleasant

EmacsWiki:Emacs_and_EmacsWikiMode_on_PDAs  hmmmm.....



!! Memory and Expansion
4 GB micro-SD card.
 
 
October 17, 2008, at 07:57 AM by OtherMichael - more notes, chunks from WinCE, handwriting, software
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!! [[#General]] General Notes
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!! T-Mobile Wing
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Wikipedia:HTC_P4350

I have no cell contract, just using it as a tiny computer. I've owned for less than a week (since Oct 12).

Figured out the handwriting recognition thingy. There's a MENU next to the keyboard icon at the bottom... several options. I feel like I've got a StringCanPhone/Palm, again! [[http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm51348.htm|wing text-entry methods]]

[[http://www.htcwiki.com/page/Atlas+(T-Mobile+Wing)/|T-Mobile Wing community wiki]]

[[http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald|XDA developers wiki]]

!! VOIP
[[http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showforum=13|skype for WindowsCE]]
[[http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=87948|skype forum thread]] - skype
[[http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1168296|howardForums thread w/ more]] - skype and a Fring suggestion

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[[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_thread/thread/ebbaf6605fbfb10b?pli=1|Powder]]
[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]]
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[[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_thread/thread/ebbaf6605fbfb10b?pli=1|Powder]] - uhm.
[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]] - waaah, it has graphics
[[http://stella.sourceforge.net/|Stella]] - Atari 2600 emulator. I'm finding the controls awkward
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!! Other software
[[http://www.tinytwitter.com/|TinyTwitter]]

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WinCE - notes on the operating system

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[[!Programming]] [[!mobile]] [[!portable]] [[!cell phones]] [[!PDAs]]
 
 
October 15, 2008, at 09:42 PM by OtherMichael -
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[[http://www.mameworld.net/mamece3/|MAME]] ???
 
 
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!! [[#General]] General Notes
[[http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/1170456-1.html|deleting programs from the Wing]]


!! Games
[[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.roguelike.misc/browse_thread/thread/ebbaf6605fbfb10b?pli=1|Powder]]
[[http://www.nethack.org/v343/ports/download-wince.html#ppc|NetHack]]


!! [[#SeeAlso]] See Also
WinCE

!! [[#Categories]] Category tags
[[!Programming]]